2016 Tournament Survey

With the Worlds in Timaru fresh in the memory, and preparations starting for the 2016 season, we would like players in North America, and throughout the world, to provide us with feedback on what they think NAH tournaments should look like.

We have gathered plenty of feedback since NAHBPC 2015 regarding what individuals want, but we would like to get a bigger picture of what the community at large thinks. To do this, we have written this survey, and would request that you respond to it.

Any results of this survey will used only as an indication of the views of players who play in NAH tournaments, but may not be binding, when making decisions. We will publish the results after the community has had plenty of time to respond.

Please share this with as many people as possible, the more data we get, the more accurate it will be.

There is no cutoff date for answers, but we are likely to make decisions on the format for this year (or the lack of it), within the next few weeks.

John – Tournament Director

Click here to complete the survey

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NAHBPC Format

© Kev Walsh 2012, leagueofbikepolo.com

The format for the NAHBPC 2015 is going to change slightly from the past few years.

The main thinking behind this is to condense the amount of time anyone needs to be playing, meaning shorter periods of time between games, and being able to relax for 2/3 of the day. This will also make it easier to find refs and other volunteers, as only 1/3 of players will be playing at any time.

Day 1 (Friday 18th September)

54* teams, divided into 3 groups of 18

  • Group A, 5 rounds,  9am-1pm
  • Group B, 5 rounds, 1pm-5pm
  • Group C, 5 rounds, 5pm-9pm

The top 6 of each group will qualify for the top 18 group on day 2, the rest will go to the bottom 36.

*while we could divide 48 into 3 groups of 16, it makes scheduling easier, if there are an even number of games per court, so 9 games in a round is better than 8. It only adds 15 extra games over the whole day, and it also means that we can qualify 6 extra teams from the wildcard.

Day 2 (Saturday 19th September)

The top 18 teams will go into the morning group, the remaining 36 will be split into two evenly seeded groups of 18.

  • Top 18, 4 rounds, 9am-12pm
  • Bottom 36, Group A, 5 rounds, 12pm-4pm
  • Bottom 36, Group B, 5 rounds, 4pm-8pm

The top 18, and the best 7 of each Bottom 36 group, will play on Sunday.

Day 3 (Sunday 20th September)

32 team double elimination.

NAH Club Bench Championship 2015

© Liam Gilson 2014, www.liamgilson.com

The NAH Club Bench Championship 2015 will be taking place in Guadalajara, Mexico, over three days, Friday Nov 20th – Sunday Nov 22nd.

Teams will be either club or region based.

A maximum of 12 teams will play in one of two round robin groups, playing 5 games over Friday afternoon, and Saturday. On Sunday, the top 8 teams will playoff to be the Champions.

The following teams have qualified:

  • Champions – Portland
  • Hosts – Guadalajara
  • Cascadia – ???
  • Great Lakes – Winner of Great Lakes Regional Bench (Minneapolis)
  • Eastside – Winner of ESBI (NYC)
  • Heartland – ???
  • South Central – ???
  • Northside – Northside Representative Team
  • Southeast – Southeast Representative Team
  • South West – ???
  • Great Plains – ???
  • Mexico – ???

In the event a region cannot, or chooses not to send a team, regions will get a second team in, going down the order above (based on finishing position in the 2014 NAH Bench, and 2014 NAHBPC finishing position, for the 3 regions that did not send a team). This process will continue to 3rd teams, 4th teams, etc, if required. The regions who already have 2 teams (Cascadia and the host region), will be skipped in the first round of re-allocations.

Podium: https://www.podiumbikepolo.com/nahcbc2015

Registration will open in late September. The cost per team will be $200.

League of Bike Polo: https://leagueofbikepolo.com/nah-club-bench-championship.

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Ruleset v4.5 Unanimously Approved for 2015

This page is a companion to the newly published ruleset for 2015. V4.5 can be found here: http://www.nahardcourt.com/rules/

Over the winter the rules committee has been drafting rules, discussing ideas for the future and play-testing early versions of rules. In January a call was put out for clubs to play-test a version of the crease rule, and Boston and Portland both responded with excellent feedback. In addition to that, we utilized this ruleset in two non-NAH events: Fixcraft’s PHBP Momentum event, and Toronto’s GLWC. We used these opportunities to gather real-life feedback from the players who are pushing these rules to their limit. We are confident that we have successfully built upon the foundation of last years comprehensive ruleset in such a way that work can be focused on specific rules efforts such as these. We no longer need to overhaul an entire document and can pour our minds into heavy topics such as the crease and obstruction. We will continue to gather feedback and improve the language of the entire ruleset.

The voting was open to the regions for the period of 7 days and after some lengthy discussion the vote came back unanimously in favor of enacting this ruleset for the 2015. We gave the voting options of: Affirmative. Affirmative with Comments. Negative with Comments. Abstain.

Votes in:

Cascadia: Affirmative
Eastside: Affirmative
Heartland: Affirmative
Great Lakes: Affirmative with comments
Great Plains: Affirmative
Mexico: Affirmative
Northside: Affirmative
South East: Affirmative
South Central: Abstained
South West: Affirmative with comments

For transparency, here are what the various regions responded with for feedback from club representatives:

South West Feedback:
Crease:
minor penalty too harsh – delayed turnover instead,
size of crease too big, also prefer a half circle shape
doesn’t like the no contact against the goalie rule
how will the 3 seconds be counted?

Obstruction:
Needs fleshing out a bit and more precise language before people can get on board completely
Should be contingent on having more than one ref per court
Worries about subjectivity of refs and how that will affect differences in calls from game to game

Other:
Interfering with another player’s mallet when off-ball should be penalized similar to the way off-ball body contact is. Slashing could be called but it’s too limiting an infraction.

Great Lakes Feedback:
Obstruction:
Perhaps add some more clarity that it’s extended offensive off-ball screens that are elimated. A fair amount of people assumed that while on defense you couldn’t screen someone from receiving a pass. This really just boils down to players not understanding the rule.
I would highly recommend adding an appendix (I realize it makes it longer) that describes the type of play that is illegal. I think eventually it could be eliminated but right now it’s just not natural enough for players to understand. When I’ve explained to people what are the type of plays that are now illegal they’ve almost all agreed that it’s ok. Some additional clarity with a list of a few examples would go a long way.
Consider adding an off ball ref for semi-final and final matches. I realize that we already run short on quality refs but if we’re talking about qualifiers, NAs and World’s we can hope that this would be possible. Usually at this point we’ve moved to one court which would make it easier.


We will continue to refine the ruleset and there will be an update this week and potentially more updates before or during the qualifier season as more play-testing is done. As always, plase contact joe@nahardcourt.com if you have constructive input!

Below is some additional clarification on the obstruction rule and some various scenarios that have been brought to our attention over the past months. Thanks to Mr Do for the video used to make the clips.

NAH Ruleset V4.5 – Obstruction Rule

  • §8.7.1 – An obstruction penalty will be assessed when a player actively impedes the movement of an opposing player who is attempting to make a play on the ball.
    §8.7.1.1 – This movement, referred to as “screening” or “picking,” will be defined as blocking an opponent to gain access to the ball, blocking them from challenging the player in possession of the ball, or preventing them from free and open movement to gain a defensive position on the court.
    §8.7.2 – If a “screen” is set that is stationary, momentary and in a safe manner an obstruction penalty will not be assessed, however, legal bodily contact as described in §10.3 is possible.

Examples

We’ve taken clips of games from last year to provide examples of what is legal, what isn’t and some calls which are on the border to best understand that the line is very fine and will only grow more clear over time. There was no such rule when these games were played, so we aren’t suggesting any of these plays were illegal at the time.

Legal


Legal – Eddy (in red) has the opportunity to screen harder but holds back. This is an example of an equally effective block without impeding movement.

 


Legal – Henri (in blue) nearly screens out Daren (in black). He occupied the space early enough to allow the T-Bone to be avoided. Daren accelerated into the screen. This is a great example of being in the way, rather than getting in the way.

 


Legal – Joey (in black) has the ball, therefore Luca (in gray) had the right to stop short on him.

 

Legal – David (in red) pivot turns, plants his rear tire and inadvertently causes a screen while moving into position to defend or make a play on the ball carrier. David was merely playing the ball without intention to screen.

 


Legal – All of the players involved are continuing their movement in order to avoid any active impeding of movement.

Illegal


Illegal – Eddy (in red) uses his brakes to ‘screen’ Luca (in gray) from making a play on the ball/ball carrier. This is an example of when it’s illegal to prevent a player of moving towards an open ball. If Eddy choses to move towards the ball himself, and uses a screen only to give himself space, then it can be done legally.

 


Illegal – Prolonged impeding of movement by Sean, but it’s also in the crease.

 


Illegal – Obstruction on Will (in gray) but not Polo (second screener in gray). Polo just happens to be in the way while Will put himself in the way by using his brakes.
 


Illegal – Obstruction on Henri (in blue), he rides to the front of the net and stops directly in front of the Mosquito’s player. This is also potentially inside of the crease.

 


Illegal – Obstruction, LML (in turquoise tanktop) cut off line from behind the net while braking hard causing a dab. LML needs to continue rolling forward.

 


Illegal – Obstruction and Tail Whip on Forrest (in turquoise), this could potentially be a Minor penalty if it results in a shot on net.

 


Illegal – Obstruction, Polo (in gray) stops short, with eyes off ball and on Joey (in black) which results in a breakaway. Polo has to let Joey attempt to make a play on the ball carrier.

 


Illegal – First Eddy (in red) interferes, at which point Polo (in gray) protests for a call. Then Eddy Obstructs Polo by cutting his line and stopping short. This results in a 1-on-1 situation with the goalie which means this obstruction could be considered a Minor penalty.

 


The factor’s at play here are the duration of the screen and intensity of braking, but essentially Polo (in gray) is preventing a player without the ball from getting up court into a position. This is illegal, but since it has little effect on the play a referee could let it go with a warning.

 


This is a clear obstruction on Polo (in gray) as he accelerates into a position to deliberately force physical contact with the player in red. If he were already in the position to block, it’s legal, but since he had to move deliberately and held the screen, it’s Obstruction. Moreover, it results in a shot on net that wasn’t fairly won..

2015 Season amendments

After our announcement about the 2015 season, we had some questions from regions and players, that we would like to respond to.

Reserved slots for wildcard

We reserved a slot in the wildcard for each region, two for Lexington, and one for the Ladies Army winners.

In each case, these spots are transferable to the next team in line, if a team is unable to make it (or in the event of Lexington volunteer teams, or the Ladies Army winners, already qualified directly for the NAHBPC).

For the Lexington volunteer teams, the club will decide how those spots get divided up.

For the Ladies Army slot, we ask the Ladies Army organisers to decide how that slot is allocated, if the winners are qualified, or cannot attend. We would suggest the next available, non-qualified team in the rankings gets the slot, but leave that decision to the organizers.

We apologize if the wording was in any way taken as a suggestion that the Ladies Army winners would not be able to qualify directly, that was never our intention, we were more than aware than Cunnings Stunts qualified out of Northside last year. The intention was always that we’d keep that slot for another Ladies Army team if this occurred.

NAH Bench teams

While we would like to see only club based teams compete in the NAH Bench, we’ve had some feedback from regions, that they may not have a club who would be willing to travel.

We hope each region will have a bench qualifier, and a club from each will attend, but if a region is unable to organise a bench qualifier, or none of the clubs is willing to travel to the NAH Bench, we would also accept a regional representative team, made up of players from multiple clubs in that region. All the other rules would still apply.

We must emphasize this should only be a last resort.

Image © Sam Bennett.